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Register: 6/17/08
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Posted: 6/17/08, 5:24 PM
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Doesn't Magelo work with private servers? (I'm playing on a server called WoWscape http://wowscape.net)
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Posted: 6/17/08, 6:44 PM
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yes it works with scape .. just update to 2.4.2
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Register: 1/11/07
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Posted: 6/18/08, 5:04 AM
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Hi there !
the quick answer is no  I know it is working now, but in the long term it shouldn't...
Legal Concern
Private means pirat, pirat means illegal. Blizzard is actively fighting against this. Magelo is not aimed at providing an (sort of) underground service, it is an official and widely spread community.
Database quality
On so called private servers, there's a lot of unofficial items, quests and npcs, allowing data to come from these servers would be harmful, from a quality standpoint.
I always liked Blizzard's games for their great balancing, I saw items having something such as +500 to all stats coming from some of these servers, to me, it clearly breaks the gameplay experience, and is disrespectful to the job done at Blizzard 
Ranking
Magelo will provide players ranking really soon. If there're cheated players in the ranking, what is its value ?
Data coming from these servers requires a lot of attention and additional work for us, and we prefer work on improvements rather than spending time to correct such weird stuff 
With our next update there's chances you will not be able to synchronize characters from these servers.
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Posted: 6/18/08, 5:21 PM
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Note: This is just for discussion.
Blizzard is currently not taking any known action against private servers, even though they might want to. Reason is that Blizzard doesn't have a strong case, it will likely cost them too much to be worth it since most users will move to a different servers or just stop with World of Worldcraft when their server gets shut down, and (this is a guess) because private servers indirectly bring them more customers and advertisement. Another guess is that they find it amusing to see the "pathetic" attempts on faking what Blizzard did.
Database quality..... A possible solution would be that every item you receive has to be in wowhead/thottbot/wowdb/whatever to reduce your server load by linking to them. I don't know how magelo works exactly, but there could be a "token system" which gives every item string a link or something, which is directed to wowhead or so. Wowhead actually has thumbnails of items available. The downside is that enchants wouldn't be shown. And even then, you still could decide to rename this "unknown region" or something to "Not supported" or "Unofficial" so it still wouldn't mess up things that much.
There is an easy solution for the rankings:
Only allow certain servers/regions to be included in the rankings. For example, you could give support for the test server, but since it is a test server it wouldn't be included at the rankings.
The reason that I started debating, is because of the fact that I want all software to be as "open" as possible. There doesn't have to be support for those who do not play on official servers, as long as you aren't intentionally limiting it if Blizzard isn't taking any action anyway.
Let me state a few facts: WoWscape is apparantly the largest server, with over ten thousand players on at next to all times when the server isn't down. It has been running for over a year already, and yet WoWscape hasn't been sued yet. Does this ring any bells? A server that is that big and runs for over a year, and still isn't sued. That doesn't sound like the Blizzard you (krogh) described. No offense.
Let Blizzard tell you to discontinue support for non-official servers, but before that, take the same approach as Blizzard does: Do not give support, but do not intentionally limit things.
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Posted: 6/19/08, 6:07 AM
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Hi kutagh,
even if Blizzard doesn't seem to take any action against private servers, it doesn't mean it is legal.
The World of Warcraft server is Blizzard's property, as a company Magelo can't support any of these private server.
I admit it was naive, we didn't think we would have so much private server and it would be as harmful as it is.
We had more than 200 of these servers registered.
I appreciate your suggestions about database quality, that being said, why should we work harder to handle private server ?
We rather prefer to work on new features and improvements. Last week, we spent most of our time in fixing weird stuffs happening due to these servers.
Any solution requires time to be developped, as a Magelo user, you'd like to see new features or know we're vaguely working on hidden stuff ?
My opinon
To me, the objectives of these servers are to provide WoW for free, and to supply your T6 to level 1 chars or even create any kind of über item.
WoW for free... ~15 $/ is rather cheap for a game that is evolving constantly, new content is added on a regular basis, content creation takes time, time is costly. You pay for a service, you get a great service, deal !
This is a highly subjective topic as everyone's feeling is different on this.
Give me my T6... woohoo, what a gameplay ? It is one of the worst reason, items are reward, rewards are based on your progression, be it PVP or PVE, there's no gameplay if you just have to speak to a Power Vendor to get a full T200 armor set.
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